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 | Bob in NY
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2003-01-08 47174
My local dealer has a 2001 4200 with 4 wheel drive, mid PTO,HST and turf tires. 29 hours on it and turf tires, looks brand new. They are willing to sell it as new so I would get the warranty. I want to mow about 2 acres of lawn with it and also put a front plow on it for snow removal. I want to put a 60" MMM on it. I have some questions I hope someone can help me with.
1) They want to sell the tractor for $12,900 is that a good deal?
2) Do I want to get the ag tires or just go with turf and put chains on in the winter for snow plowing.
3) The JD site does not show a front plow for it but the dealer said they put the dozer like blade on 4200 and 4210's all the time with no problem. Should I be concerned?
4) I live on a hill so I want to change the wheel configuration for the widest available. If I do that will the 60" MMM be inside the wheelbase?
Thanks in advance for your help....
Bob
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 | Billy
Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 975 Southeast Oklahoma 
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2003-01-08 47175
Bob,
Sounds like a fair price to me but I'd try to talk him down to 12,000 anyway. On the tires, I've had ag and R4's. I like the R4's much better than the ag tires. They are easier on your lawn and have almost as much traction. In snow, I don't know but I think R4's would out do turfs. Since we don't get much snow here, I really can't answer that one. As far as the other questions, the dealer would be the one to ask. Also, you should be able to get a discount on the mmm when buying with the tractor.
One more thing, if you finance through JD and your homeowners insurance won't cover the tractor, ask him about their insurance. It's the cheapest I have found. It only covers the tractor until you get it payed for. It's full coverage with a $500 deductable. Insurance on my 4610 is less than $55 a year through them.
good luck
Billy ....
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| Green_in_MI
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9 myLocation
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2003-01-08 47185
Turf tires and the 4wd are an excellent combination for snow. Even deep snow won't stop that 4200 when in 4wd. Chains are a waste of money because I doubt you will need them. I never have even in the deepest snows. The 4200 is a fairly heavy machine and that is great for traction. Mud is a totally different story for turf tires though. You can get reasonably good traction in dry soil though especially with the fwd and some extra ballast.
Deere offers a front "dozer type" blade for the 4200. It is really too small to be an effective snowplow but is probably sized well to grade soil and gravel. But, grading on any compact tractor is better accomplished with 3pt implements anyway. Box blades and back blades are much better suited to grade than the front blade. Compact utiity tractors should never be mistaken for bulldozers. Another problem with the front blade is that it is incompatible with the loader and mid mount mower. You have to take them off to attach the front mounted blade. Very inconvenient. The loader and mid mount mower are compatible with each other though. Deere does offer a loader mounted front blade for "light grading". It replaces the bucket on the loader. Takes less than 1 minute to switch attachments.
The 60 inch mid mower will cover the widest stance of the 4200 tire positions. It is best to get a 3rd selector valve installed on the 4200 to just operate that deck. A 4200 with those options probably sold for between $14k-$15k with those options before the xx10 series. I would still try to get it for $12k like the other poster said. ....
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| hardwood
Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3583 iowa 
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2003-01-09 47206
Bob, Let me combine all your questions into one reply. For total dollars spent I think your best buy would be a gear drive and in any case R-4 tires, forget the front blade, then spend the difference between hydro and gear drive plus the cost of the front blade puting those dollars toward a front end loader, you'll never believe how many things you will use the loader for. I've got 12/12 reversers and R-4's on my 4300 and 4310, I demo'ed hydros, but thought they consumed too much horsepower. the demos also had turf tires, when mowing wet ditches I had no traction at all,the R-1 tires are a little tough on lawns. Enjoy your new Tractor. ....
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| cef2lion
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 41 PA
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2003-01-09 47220
I purchased a 4310 last summer. I was looking at a 4210 and a left over 4300. For the long hual I decided to go with the 4310. There wasn't much price difference between the 4210 and 4310 over the years I will own it. I thought about the 4300 but decided to go with the newer unit.
I recommend the 3rd selector valve for the MMM as well. It appeared to me that the selector is a nicer setup on the 4X10 then the 4XXX series. The person that dropped off my 4310 said the 3rd select lever on the 4XXX had a cable running from the lever down. Mine seems like a solid link.
I went with the 60 MMM but wish I would have gone with the 72 MMM. The 60 covers the width of the tractor but after using it a bit I wish I had gone with the 72. It seems to me I would be able to mow closer to some objects with the 72. On the other hand you would get the 60 between some objects that the 72 wouldn't. Tried to trade after just a month but they wanted $1100 difference.
On the front blade. The dealer said there was a front blade for the 4210 even though the book didn't list it. After some research they said the front blade didn't work on the 4210. I had to go with a 4310 if I wanted the blade. Not sure if that is the case with the 4200. I ended up going with the FEL 430. As another poster stated there is so much more you can do with it. I plan to pick up a 3pt rear blade and use that with the loader to clear snow. I have turf and have no chains and it works great in the snow. Mudd would be another matter.
My 4310 appeared to have the rear tires in wide mode. I looked at putting the front tires in wide mode but one tire rubbed the 60 MMM. It felt more stable that way. My dealer called JD and they said they do not support the front tires in wide mode. Said it put a strain on the front axle and warned about the warranty.
Good luck as well,
Craig ....
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| Bill Jones
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2003-01-09 47240
I have a 4-way hydrolic blade (54") on my JD 4110. It would seem you could get a blade for the 4200. I have used the blade for snow, gravel and dirt and it works just fine on all accounts. It has HST drive that I love and have not run out of power to do any of the work I want it to. This includes mowing, FEL work, rear blade and front blade work. ....
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